Re: Re: Rider training for BMW.

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Steve wrote, “what i would like to know is how that stats are collected. Is this (A) road bike only crashes or do these stats alsol include (1)weekend riders of chookchasers – MX bikes and also (2) farm bike accidents.Keen to know as I suspect that I may be unduly subsidizing all those people in (1) & (2)"Mark Twain wrote, "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics"Steve,When a crowd of us Ulybods (back when i was a Ulybod) went down to Wellington for a days training at ACC before managing their first ACC/Ulysses Motorcycle Intersection Awareness campaign in our home areas, this was one of the first questions ALL of us wanted answered.ACC depend on medical staff to fill out their forms for their statistical info, so ACC DO, albeit inadvertently, record some of the cases you worry about against the wrong pool.LTSA, who we also asked the question, when we met with them later in the same campaign, record their accident data far more exactingly (and I would have thought you would have had access to their figures via your firm, seeing as you supply most of the raw data LTSA use).Hence, my wife gets planted while stationary, feet on the floor, at a Give Way by a people mover. ALL the ambos and medics and ACC, no matter how many times we correct them, call it a motorcycle accident. LTSA would record it as a car accident with a motorcyclist (scooterist, if you want to be pedantic) as an innocent victim.While I had access to LTSA's stats for the period of my ACC project I tried to align both sets of stats, to get a handle on the disparities, but ACC wouldn't let us have anything like the access LTSA did. I don't think either organisation could guess at the difference themselves.I know exactly what you are on about, and it totally pisses me off watching my neighbours, wearing no protective gear, playing on my road with their mini-chopper with their baby on the tank in front of them. I should have to pay to cover them? (It pisses the Community Plod knocking on their door and telling them not to do it whenever I pot them, too, I'm sure, because they only wait for a couple of days after he's been before they are at it again.)I am not allowed to cull them to cleanse the gene pool. I feel powerless.