Sorry I can't go along with (you are not a motorcyclist till you have fallen off) The idea is to get around the corner, not fall off half way round. Sure offroad is something else, but you still need to finish, or else whats the point. To me is like saying you have  not had a good night out, if you can still remember it in the morning.    :evil:  Phil

Relax Phil - not equating falling off = being a motorcylist at all - frivilous humour specific to Alex and offroading (multiple smileys sort of give it away a bit). Now - what happened last night? I can't remember - so it must have been good  👿